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	<title>Comments on: Mortgages, Community and the Justin Timberlake of New Urbanism</title>
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		<title>By: Newurbanmom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carole: The Mayor I&#039;m speaking of is Don Cousens, former mayor of Markham - he suffered kidney disease in recent years and retired last year after 32 years in public office.  But if there was one attribute I could transfer  it would be his collaborative approach to management. 

He pulled upon community development advocates and international thought leaders on relevant issues  for advice.   He had national market research companies involved in helping to engage and poll residents here on so many plans, initiatives and proposals  that not only did we feel respected but we understood that we had a stake and say in the future development of our city.  

He also had relevant business experience.  He was the founder of our regional technology association and stayed active in it as Mayor.  Thanks to him Markham is now known as Canada&#039;s Technology capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carole: The Mayor I&#8217;m speaking of is Don Cousens, former mayor of Markham &#8211; he suffered kidney disease in recent years and retired last year after 32 years in public office.  But if there was one attribute I could transfer  it would be his collaborative approach to management. </p>
<p>He pulled upon community development advocates and international thought leaders on relevant issues  for advice.   He had national market research companies involved in helping to engage and poll residents here on so many plans, initiatives and proposals  that not only did we feel respected but we understood that we had a stake and say in the future development of our city.  </p>
<p>He also had relevant business experience.  He was the founder of our regional technology association and stayed active in it as Mayor.  Thanks to him Markham is now known as Canada&#8217;s Technology capital.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, if there was one attribute you could transfer from your mayor to ours, what would that be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, if there was one attribute you could transfer from your mayor to ours, what would that be?</p>
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		<title>By: Newurbanmom</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that information Carole.  How a community chooses to reshape itself as a new urbanist center is so important.  People have to be educated and new initiatives have to be launched ethically and responsibly which as you explain was not always the case in Cleveland.

My community was abysmal for businesses and dreary for residents interested in a more culturally focused community.  

New urbanist initiatives improved that situation as did an attitute that was open and supportive of new immigration and new technology companies and infrastructure. 

It took 25 years for our initiatives to take shape (the community is over 200 years old).  But I remember the protests regarding bad decisions that our city officials were going to make and I remember our community triumphs.  Big kudos also go to our mayor who had a vision (and surrounded himself with good people). He was also very practical.  He had the knowledge (former computer biz professional) and education to put in place a strong and ethical  foundation for our city&#039;s improvements.  

Leadership is key...unfortunately that has been, at best, an inconsistent factor in Cleveland&#039;s situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that information Carole.  How a community chooses to reshape itself as a new urbanist center is so important.  People have to be educated and new initiatives have to be launched ethically and responsibly which as you explain was not always the case in Cleveland.</p>
<p>My community was abysmal for businesses and dreary for residents interested in a more culturally focused community.  </p>
<p>New urbanist initiatives improved that situation as did an attitute that was open and supportive of new immigration and new technology companies and infrastructure. </p>
<p>It took 25 years for our initiatives to take shape (the community is over 200 years old).  But I remember the protests regarding bad decisions that our city officials were going to make and I remember our community triumphs.  Big kudos also go to our mayor who had a vision (and surrounded himself with good people). He was also very practical.  He had the knowledge (former computer biz professional) and education to put in place a strong and ethical  foundation for our city&#8217;s improvements.  </p>
<p>Leadership is key&#8230;unfortunately that has been, at best, an inconsistent factor in Cleveland&#8217;s situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, fantastic stuff here. I have to add one thing, and that is a need to be cautious even if you are a New Urbanist. Here in NE Ohio that translates into tax abatements dangled like a carrot in front of a rabbit. You get approved up to a certain point, but then with tax abatements for 10 or 15 years, you can afford more house for the same monthly payment.

What&#039;s wrong with this picture? Sometimes nothing. But for some, when the abatement period is up the payments go up higher than they can afford. Ten or fifteen yrs seemed a long way away. And we have the tax abatement &#039;carrot&#039; here in Cleveland proper, for new town homes, new single family dwellings.

I think it&#039;s pretty true that most of us would be hard pressed to know what we can afford ten or fifteen yrs down the road...heck most of us would be lucky to be working at the same place. I just urge caution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, fantastic stuff here. I have to add one thing, and that is a need to be cautious even if you are a New Urbanist. Here in NE Ohio that translates into tax abatements dangled like a carrot in front of a rabbit. You get approved up to a certain point, but then with tax abatements for 10 or 15 years, you can afford more house for the same monthly payment.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with this picture? Sometimes nothing. But for some, when the abatement period is up the payments go up higher than they can afford. Ten or fifteen yrs seemed a long way away. And we have the tax abatement &#8216;carrot&#8217; here in Cleveland proper, for new town homes, new single family dwellings.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty true that most of us would be hard pressed to know what we can afford ten or fifteen yrs down the road&#8230;heck most of us would be lucky to be working at the same place. I just urge caution.</p>
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